Anime is Not a Disease, a reply to Layne A. Jackson.
Anime is Not a Disease, a reply to Layne A. Jackson.
This was gonna be my second anthology, but it got taken over by the reply to Layne.
OK, I don’t like immediately sequelfagging b/c it kind of kills viewer retention to link posts into a long series of other posts, the time investment looks intimidating. I know. But I have to reply to myself and elaborate where I left off or correct some of my earlier mistakes, and frankly I know literally no one will go back to my old posts if I actually looked back and edited them anyway. That’s not how the internet works, people want new things. So if you don’t like self-citation because it’s an exercise in narcissism, just skip until you don’t see article embeds anymore, OK? OK.
When I wrote this it was a very passion-of-the moment ordeal. Not specially well thought out, or really organized. An emotional article. Into it I poured a decade of frustration and ressentiment, blaming the internet for ruining my life before it really began, and my hope that I might leave this terrible place behind forever. Now, I did have good reasons for this, citing addiction, social media, and the rapid proliferation of normies and their dogshit opinions, dampening discourse and oversaturating the net with meaningless and most of all boring content. The ‘net just isn’t as fun a place to anymore. But I wilfully omitted those reasons we really stay here, beyond vague and sinful pleasures. I’m very guilty of projecting the image of evil on the internet and moralizing about it, to be honest it was immature of me. I want to rectify this with a touch of nuance.
We’re all drawn here, beyond just our base desires, because here we can make connections unlike anywhere else in reality. We can talk to eachother about those things that are impolite to admit publicly, corroborate those observations that only people in our generation and sense of know-how really are able to make, pointing out the flaws of the world around us which is more prison-like than the digital world could ever be, even with the encroaching spread of the padded cell in the form of social media. I already made the matrix reference in the first ‘stack, and about the hope we can live better lives, but as it was said by Sec’, “We do this for the love of the game.” We enjoy the time we spend amongst eachother and our social network is suitable enough even for those of us who can find no friends or confidants amongst the unthinking masses. We keep eachother company, and that keeps us sane. Even if it’s only a parasocial online relationship. Even if we are not physical forces in one another’s lives, we still move eachother. Maybe this sounds overly sentimental, a little sappy and gay, but it is demonstrably true. We have created our own culture with its own independent thoughts and way of thinking, we show solidarity to one another and back eachother up, we network and have meaningful interactions. That is increasingly rare in the artificial prison-world. Nothing can take that away from us, not even being banned. Pandora’s box has already been opened here, with the creation of the internet and all, so there’s no going back anyway.
And now, the main article itself: Prelude
Contrary to Popular Opinion on here, I don’t believe Anime is a Disease. Frankly this post reads like a dossier from the desk of the minister of propaganda. I realize that the dregs of society are an easy soft target for any zealot with a chip on their shoulder that wants to blame the problems of the world on something. We’re all guilty of this here. I know. A lot of people seem to agree with Layne’s position, which he conveniently makes near-impossible to disagree with using a series of cleverly worded and placed rhetorical questions. I mean, it was a pretty smart propagandist strategy, and also great for reader retention by making it interactive.
I think what this subject really needs is not a hit-piece, but some nuance.
Anime is Not a Disease. It is an Artform.
Now that I’ve officially committed iWignat career suicide, what could be my argument here?
Anime is an Artform. This I believe should speak for itself, Anime is an artistic movement, fractured into many studio styles, genres, subgenres, and even the whims and tastes of individual artists. It has produced animation and graphic novels well-loved around the world, but not without controversy.
Art, like many other tools of culture, is only what you make of it. —You will always get what you want out of it—Your own interpretation/perspective. The act of appraising art is almost always projection. The same is true of the internet. or even video games. To blame anime itself for sexual perversions channeled through it achieves nothing, and will only speak to the people already in your camp on the matter. It’s like boomers shaking their fist in the air about how bideo bames cause school shootings. They do not. Anime girls are not representative of any evil—No Tradcaths, they are not demons either. They are inert and perfect symbols, things imbued with spirit by the artists that make them. When I say perfect I mean they do not age and exist entirely as idealized things. They are not real. They are conjured from the world of forms by the imaginations of those creatives that can summon them. You could make them into your Madonna or your Whore of Babylon, they are blank slates equally suited to be both. You could use them to give form to some tulpa you created or your own anima, if you wished… I wouldn’t recommend that though.3
Anime is not uniquely decadent or evil.
Nor is the east… Not more than the west, that is. The west has fallen…4 Art Naturally attracts social and mental outliers, as it demands obsessive passion from its creators that many more average people don’t have. Yes, that even includes people who develop unhealthy obsessions and addictions. Pygmalion was like dis… It is here I will clarify, particular artists and other actors are still responsible for their actions. My argument is not about defending the indefensible, as opposition to ‘anime bad’ arguments is often made to seem by trigger-happy moralists. This is really only the anticipation of my next point:
A peek into the oft overlooked Western animation industry
(And why blaming just anime is Hypocritical).
Layne, if you want to talk down Anime viewers, I think you should turn around and look what goes on in your own back yard. If the anime industry is rife with sex perverts and pedophiles, the west… You know the current crop of western cartoonists that control the industry are all Hollywood Jews, right?5 Not just normal Nepotism hires, but they’re all ex-tumblr intelligentsia. You know, the infamously decadent, porn-addicted, and radically left-wing Tumblr?6 The unholy place where all modern internet brimstone7 can be traced back to? Yes, that Tumblr. The Internet’s little piece of Sodom. I don’t think anyone here would like to see me go beyond Euphemism here. Also the west did birth the furry fandom, furries have infiltrated the western cartoon industry since much earlier, though its come to a head recently with straight fetish artists projecting their shit into kid’s cartoons. You can see these tumblr theatre kids sensibilities all over the western animation industry now, it’s a terrible and sorry state of affairs. So no, anime isn’t uniquely evil, and the west, is in fact, fallen.
Why insulting social outliers is friendly fire.
The iFunny community exists as a found-family of social rejects. There are many users that exist along various points between the two extremes of social and antisocial behaviors, but overwhelmingly we are not representative of normal sociable people. We are radicals often excluded from polite discussion in this world. Now there is a difference between feeling the usual disgust with something wrong and condemning those that perpetrate or spread such things, and of course some are rightfully condemned. But condemnation, as we are all intimately familiar with, does have a radicalizing effect. If you condemn someone as a sort beyond redemption, or at least make them feel such a way, then they will reactively be turned against you. When you attack someone, they will defend themself. The condemned when left out of control and left unpunished or unrighted can and will become societal detriments, engaging in antisocial and anti-organizational behavior, or even outlaws. I think the mechanics of forgiveness and redemption exist socially to bring otherwise productive but condemnable people back into the fold. I’m sure Christians are familiar with this forgiveness thing. I don’t mean to go for the atheist gotcha, “so much for the forgiving christian!”(which is the left wing equivalent of the right’s:) “So much for the tolerant left!”—when saying this. This part is to stress that many anime fans can go through social rehabilitation via this process, as many of us can if we are met with a satisfying social contract by society at large. Many that are cringe could be otherwise salvageable people. Remember where you came from as a kid and that you didn’t always know better. Also in general, the right has had a terrible habit of alienating potential talent by being utterly retarded and stifling.8
Why watching Anime doesn’t make you a Fakenat.
Watching Anime and being a nationalist are not incompatible, though you should not associate the two together if you want to be taken seriously. Anime (and cartoons in general) are fundamentally less serious, at least by cultural perception. Of course this does not stop the Facetious. The west and the east have had a healthy cultural dialogue for hundreds of years at this point through our avenues of trade. One typically of mutual respect, especially the early connection between Japanese and American Cinema. Now more than ever thanks to the internet. Unless you are insistent on a vow of consuming no foreign media whatsoever because you consider them to be foreign cultural contaminants, you cannot truly believe this without failing to live by your own standard today. I do not like being forced into a position where I have to argue from a multiculturalist talking point, but it’s true. Culture is not static, nor does it exist in isolation, it exists in a vast context of people interacting with other people. Just know when things shouldn’t mix. I hope you aren’t giving yourself vibe whiplash by listening to Kasane Teto’s Headache and then turning on Bathory’s Wheel of Sun. You’re a tasteless weirdo if you can’t categorize and separate aesthetics properly into appropriate genres/moods. At least give a few seconds or minutes of silence before jumping entire genres, ok? Also unless it totally fucking sucks, dont change the song before it’s over I hate having a song I’m actually listening to get cut off!
Anime is without a hint of irony, both cute and funny. I’m tired of being told it isn’t.
Yes that was both an ironic joke and a serious statement in itself. You cannot act holier than thou in a community of people who were irony-poisoned through memes. Irony poisoning operates in ways similar to the quote famously misattributed to Ghandi: “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” In a sense Irony poisoning is the perfect tool of normalization. A tool of psychological warfare, similar to Yuri Bezmenov’s Active Measures—his description of Soviet means of multi-generational psy-ops and their planned goals of greater cultural subversion. The problem is that we were— all of us9—radicalized by the yellow meme app. You cannot tell me with a straight face that irony poisoning is a reason you hate anime when you yourself were irony poisoned into your system of beliefs. It always starts with a joke that makes you let your guard down. That’s how memetic contagions spread, whether you hold your beliefs with true conviction or not, you were led to them in mysterious ways. Irony poisoning is not a valid criticism you can use here. You cannot dislike anime fans for this if your community is in that way the same.
My Vocaloid addiction started with this edit of Teto’s Igaku by Dotquack. I am never going to get my time back, and I don’t regret it. Very snappy late GenZ tikslop editing style. (you can’t embed inside of polls, so I do this instead)
Adorable nonsense. What is to you tranime coal, is to me endearing and silly.
(Bonus) Daklr’s Vocaloid Squirmsesh10
Aegidivs still has shooters out here!
I define “squirming” as a minor form of dancing madness. When you hear a song so catchy, that you enjoy it so much you cannot help but to dance along. It can start with something as small as the involuntary tapping of your foot to the beat. A squirm session can occur with any given subject in complete isolation, or among two or more people. But with two or more people, you’ve got a party on your hands. Surely a gift from the Lord of Madness, whomever you might attribute that epithet to.11 I think vocaloid music, as a genre is—in part—a cultural time-capsule of Squirm-worthy white girl party music made from the 2000s-2010s that Japan reflects back at the west as part of our cultural dialogue with them. The West, which has since abandoned the genre, finds it exotic once it is exported back from japan since the Japanese have made it their own, but really this is no different from how they would copy the stories of our Cowboy films and transplant them to Shogun. Fundamentally it still has the same spirit of WGPM, or Squirmcore. They both share a core of EDM instrumentals with a female singer, it’s just altered by Japanese sensibilities, with robo-singers and perfect anime girl mascots. No, this isn’t the pretense for some delusional cope that vocaloid is Aryan, neither genres are, it’s just an observation. I’m not one of those awful kpop fans that tries to insist that Kpop is somehow more trad and based than western popslop b/c korea has no niggers and they also have compulsory classical music education—though I am jealous of korea for those two things—music education should be required to be considered literate, as the Greeks used to believe. It’s just modern people have no sense of Gravitas, and increasingly even basic maturity or sense (as well as the control of the music industry by our sworn enemies), so everything that comes out is coal.12 I believe squirming to be the key to sublimation of one’s sexual impulses, by channeling that which animates oneself into a productive dance instead of a self-destructive gooning. I think there is special reason dancing was once standard affair of human mating rituals, it demonstrates excellent self-control. In high European culture, once upon a time, squirming had become so refined and movements so deliberate and intimate that it was a high art unto itself. Though, it has since been made so vulgar that party-going is beginning to be shunned in younger generations. In part due to antisocial cowardice, but also due to nigs and latinx making courtship rituals so tasteless, crude, and base that it clearly doesn’t appeal to most people anymore. Twerking and mounting is not cool! Keep that stuff in bed!
Have a good Teto Thursday.
Sub for more Vocaloid Squirm Sesh
More like liberal Farts major HAHAHA. Seriously the RW needs more competent chudartists to save the west aesthetically and culturally. Things are so shit rn in our goyslop culture.
Endearing 4chan slang for artists. Everyone got a -fag moniker on that site based on their vocation or the type of posts they’d make. It was an adjective, a verb(in which case it would be -fagging), and a pronoun, since anonymous imageboards didn’t have any names.
TBH I was never on 4chan in the pre-2016 internet when the place still had a distinct culture on the internet, and before it was gentrified by the masses of normies, third-worlders, and ex-reddit/tumblr/twitter users who were made digital refugees by being banned from their host site. It’s become such a wasteland by current year, nothing interesting or unique to talk about and only people talking about x or y current thing like the rest of normal social media. Reduced to a shadow of its former radical and strange self.
Moderate risk of trannydom, or you’ll be one of those guys who keeps trying to manifest his dream girl by sheer force of imagination.
The west has fallen… A slogan most often used by traditionalists and politically right-wing (especially nationalistic) youth as a shorthand descriptor of the perceived decline of western culture or civilization as a whole (it is assumed things were better at some point in the past, though when that was is hotly debated). The West in this case applies mostly to the nations and former colonies of ethnic Europeans, NATO affiliated, or first-world countries. Most of all that they have an extant population of ‘Whites’—Europeans or their Diaspora.
The Decadence of Hollywood needs no introduction. Amongst iFunniers most negative stereotypes about jews are assumed, if not outright proved by research, to be true. To clarify, for the newfags in the room. Do that research your damn self, I won’t spoonfeed you.
Tumblr is where exagerrated stereotypes of whites as universally liberal, degenerate(I.E. furry/gay, among other increasingly obscure sexual paraphilias), and cringe band/theatre kids first originated. It was a social media site designed for creative/bookish types that quickly picked up a population of role-players, political radicals, fan-fiction writers, and artists, very few of which didn’t draw or write pornography. it was like this until 2018 when the site banned all pornography, causing a mass-exodus of its userbase to other websites. Generally speaking, stereotypes are earned by the actions of some, and then projected onto the whole group. And so the stereotypes emerged that all iFunniers and 4channers are Neo-Nazi Boogeymen. Go figure.
Brimstone; Adjective. This descriptor is used to describe very bad/low quality posts. Invoking the image of Hell (‘Fire and Brimstone’) by allusion.
What I mean here is that right-wingers in modern political discourse are very dismissive of the liberal arts as illegitimate, usually for financial reasons or personal beliefs about what counts as labor. There is also the second implied meaning where conservative-types reactive resistance to change or new things can hold them back from achieving anything. By falling for lies from career politicians, their lack of interest in trying new things, or radical solutions, they have made themselves a dead weight in right-wing politics for decades. Preventing rightists from achieving any significant political or cultural victories against their enemies—beyond stalling them for 1 election cycle—for decades. In Right-wing Radical spaces conservatives are not liked for this reason, as this weakens their power critically in any sort of ideological coalition; However other Radicals, and often Artists, only dislike them for their lack of experimentation, rather than matters of their own political strategy. it is unsurprising many find conservatives to be stupid and stifling.
When I say us, I mean iFunniers, and our Diaspora culture.
This is a hyperlink to my vocaloid song playlist btw.
Wotan and Dionysus are first to come to mind.
Evocative of the gift to a year’s Naughty children on Christmas’ Day. A lesser adjective to negative posts than Brimstone.
The culture that most of us are more likely to see, as iFunny ex-pats, is faggots in the comment section talking about having gay sex under a drawing of what would otherwise be a girl, or under a drawing of a masculine woman talking about how it "ISN'T GAY YOU FUCKING CHUD!" when they then explain their fantasies of being done in the butt by the character. Very rarely would you see an anime post that wasn't about sex or other sexual and degenerate content, and even less likely to find someone in the comments not making it gay. Terms like femboy, bussy, musclemammies and more attributes to this impression of what anime does to people.
This of course doesn't make anime bad, as you said Western media is much the same. Too much violence in movies and sex on TV... It does however, create the feeling of being an accessory to the community, which for high disgust response individuals is not really a comfortable thought.
To put plainly, I don't like most anime as it is too abrasive on the ears (My Hero Acadamia), too much rape (Goblin Slayer or Beserk), it seems like it's for girls (K-On), and the community it found itself surrounded by, (much like the transvestites and Fallout New Vegas for some reason).
Anime as a medium is not bad, yes, I've even watched a few myself that I've enjoyed. Not many are attacking the medium itself, however, but the content of it. Much like how people say movies and TV shows today suck, they aren't criticizing that it wasn't shot on film but the content and choice of actors.
TL;DR, anime as an art style is fine, the content isn't, all niggers should fucking hang.
I should really explain my reasoning with topics like number six here at some point in the future if I'm going to continue previous engagements. In short, I can't stand anime. My gut instinct every time a Nipponese Fertility Icon appears is to picture Mr. Enter's mug sneering at SpongeBob cartoons, and it's so violently disgusting that it's painful when I do attempt to give it a shot. There's so many moving pieces to that reaction that it's difficult to plot a main point of contention except for my general — dare I say genetic — hatred of Asians.